Is the media tougher on black leaders, in terms of letting them forget their past mistakes?
I think so. I think we’re not willing to give them second chances because, in most cases, we’re not willing to give them first chances. You have to always prove yourself, you always have to establish your credentials. You’ve called Bill Clinton “deeply flawed.” Are there things about him you admire? I think he has an extremely fertile mind; I’ve met with him a couple of times. He’s very charismatic. If there ever was a charming person, it’s Bill Clinton. And I think he’s very articulate and has an uncanny ability to show compassion. I just don’t think he’s consistent and he can do what he says. And I think he lacks courage in some things. Bill Clinton strikes me as the kind of guy who goes wherever the polls lead him, rather than leading the polls. How do you find him, in terms of racial issues? AS: Well, I don’t agree with him cutting set-aside programs. I liked his speech about affirmative action, but then he turned right around and cut set-aside programs. I certainly don’t think he’