Was that a conscious decision to go and write more catchy songs or did it come organically?
MD: I have a feeling that it’s always been our conscious decision to try and write good songs to begin with or songs that we like anyways, and we’ve always been into the catchiness. We’ve been in so many other bands that were so far away from that – Overcast, Blood Has Been Shed, and Aftershock, that it was time to kind of hone in on what sort of worked. I feel like catchiness draws the listener back more times, or it can, anyways. HJ: I definitely had some brain freeze at times during the writing of this. I was like, “I got nothing right now.” The stress level and everything within but by the end I was like, “wow, where did that song come from?” [Laughter] HJ: “Well okay, I guess we have a keeper.” We definitely try to write stuff that we can enjoy. We try not to make up songs that are actually just 4 or 5 riffs put together. We really try to write songs. I guess it’s up to the listener to decide if we succeeded at that or not. What actually is the songwriting process like for the ban