What were the early days like with him and Timothy Leary and Ram Dass?

You were around for a lot of that. Laura: Yes. Timothy was always fun. He was always a charming man. We went to Copenhagen together and Ram Dass was there too, for a big conference. Tim gave LSD to half a dozen people, or maybe many more. The next day it was all over the newspapers. Aldous kept saying, "Tim, just keep it private, keep it quiet because we want to research it." Tim could not keep it quiet. Ganga: They debated that amongst themselves, didn’t they? Aldous wanted to keep it for scientists and religious people and Timothy wanted to give it to the masses. Laura: Yes, to everybody. Ganga: Do you think it was a mistake in retrospect? Laura: In retrospect it did do some harm because there has not been much research for thirty years, no research in drugs, LSD and psychedelics. Now it is beginning again. After thirty years one should be able to use it properly, particularly for short term therapy, for enhancement of talent, certainly for the dying or very sick people so that ...  more