Who was Livia?
It seems that the moral aura around her is another result of Augustan propaganda. 22:07 Torrey Philemon: Good point Morgana about Augustus learning not to be as rash as Caesar was. What’s the term – he needed to use an iron fist in a velvet glove, and at least appear to be kowtowing before the Senate. 22:08 flavius Horatius: Threats of exile or ostracism are only that and not documentable but make excellent fiction: consider instead his emphasis, like Julius Caesar, upon Clementia or mercy, and using Cicero, his assumption of the motto of Concordia, although not necessarily of the “orders”…. [reminds me more of compassionate conservatism than of Nixon!!] 22:08 Torrey Philemon: And what are our sources about Livia? I can’t find much original information about her. 22:08 Mara Durotriges: perhaps Livia ignored it in the Victorian sense – ‘one doesn’t discuss those things’ – Romans seem to have had a veneer of morality, hypocritical as it may have been 22:08 Lollia Junius enters… 22:08
