I'm not an iron worker but I have to go places where they are required. The $?%$&* thing will fall off behind you when you look too high up. The brim gets in the way and you need to hold your head way way back to see. Welders wear them backwards to accomodate the hood which is usually attached to the hard hat that way it. There have been a couple of times that I'm glad I had it on reguardless of how big a pain thay are. You can probobly find something by looking under "PPE", Personal Protective Equipment.