If this was plotted out in a rock family tree it would be a very incestuous vine that kept wrapping back and forth! Nick 13 grew up in Ukiah, CA and met Geoff Kresge, Davey Havok, Jade Pudget and Adam Carson while he was in High School. In 1991 Nick, Geoff and Jade were in a band together called Influence 13 that broke up in 1993. Geoff then joined AFI with Davey Havok, Adam Carson and Mark Stopholse. In 1995 Nick started Tiger Army without a permanent drummer but borrowed the services of Adam Carson for their early live shows and Adam also played drums on the 1st Tiger Army 7 Temptation as well as the first full length album. Geoff later joined in Tiger Army in 1998 playing stand up bass and was with the band until leaving in August of 2004. Davey Havok does backup vocals on the 1st two Tiger Army albums as well as the most recent “Music From Regions Beyond” and Nick 13 also does backup vocals on many of AFIs releases including Shut Your Mouth and Open Your Eyes, The Art of Drowning,