You first tried to export Newsong Irvine to Bangkok, Thailand. How did that work out?
{Laughter] Well, we followed the church model of ramping up, core development, preview services. And we had this big service and a lot of people came—including all the missionaries, everybody. They’d never seen so many people coming together. I was feeling pretty good, and then I saw the Thai guys who were part of our core. They came to me looking discouraged. I said, “What’s wrong?” They said, “This isn’t Newsong.” I said, “What are you talking about?” In my mind I’m thinking, Hey, I helped start Newsong. What do you mean, This isn’t Newsong? [laughter] They said, “Well, when we were meeting before, we were always in these little circles and everybody got to talk. But here we’re just watching a few people doing it.” The Lord just convicted me. He said, “Dave, you’ve just relied on your own default methodologies that you’ve learned. Respect the locals! Learn from the locals! I can work in different forms.” So that’s when I said, “Well, what do you think we should do?” They said, “Why d
