Shamanic Initiation varies from culture to culture but in traditional societies usually involves an intense vision or dream of being killed and dismembered (and sometimes eaten) and then reassembled with a new shamanic body . This dream or vision is often considered the call to become a shaman. Before being accepted by the community a potential shaman must often also undergo initiation ceremonies performed by the elder shamans of the community. Unlike modern civilized initiations into Lodges or Covens the potential initiate may not survive the ordeal of the initiation ceremony. In neo-shamanism the initial Journey to Retrieve a Power Animal and instructions on Journeying could be considered an initiation of sorts.